Why does mesmer hero AI suck? - Guild Wars Forums

Sniper22 · Sep 22, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Ok who else is having this problem. I can't get mesmers to do anything what I tell them. They never follow up on any target even if you lock on your hero's target. They'll probably wand that guy, but casts all of their hexes on some other random target. I was trying to do vq the ice flow and I brought gwen with a few interrupts, empathy, vor, and diversion for all those mursaat monks who spam orison and aura of faith with infinite energy. Apparently, Gwen has no idea how to use diversion on a monk. I target the monk, click diversion on the skill bar, and she will use it on a completely different target. I eventually dped out with all the mursaat groups because it took too long to take those monks down. Why cant mesmer AI be a bit more... predictable?

The First Silvari · Sep 22, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

have had good experience with them casting hexes but not rupts on targets. Rupts they seem to do well on their own xD.

Aiden_Madrigal · Sep 22, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51

I've never had this problem with my mesmers, or any other profession with mesmer spells for that matter. Compared to humans, they are much better interrupters when locked, and they do a pretty job casting hexes on a locked target. Perhaps it is an error on your part. I have noticed that if, for example, you lock your Gwen on X, then you yourself switch to Y and command Gwen to cast diversion, she'll cast it on Y (and she will lock on Y).

If you want your mesmer heroes to cast a specific hex on a specific target, it isn't just enough to 'lock them'. The only thing locking your heroes will do is make them attack only that target while unsupervised. So yeah, I'm pretty sure it was an error on your part.

Skyy High · Sep 22, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06

I, as a ranger, hate entrusting interrupts to heros, both mesmers and rangers. The only thing I can be sure a hero will do is use BHA when I tell him to. I see way too many nukes get through when I bring a mes hero on other chars (and I can see that they have a recharged interrupt), which is what I really care about them tagging. Who cares about them catching the 1/2 second cast flare consistently (in HM), when they never go for the 1 second Rodgort's most PUG mesmers could catch?

Grim Aragorn · Sep 23, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

i use my mes hero with interupt build sometimes, Gwen has always done a very good job. Maybee its the build ur trying to use?

zelgadissan · Sep 23, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09

I'm with the pro-mesmer crowd here, my guildies and I almost always have Gwen with us on anything in HM and she does wonderfully. Maybe once per area we're like "WTF GWEN??!?!?" and tbh, once per area is more than good enough for me.

I'd put money on the bad build more than the bad AI.

Xeros Rex · Sep 23, 2008, 12:38 AM // 00:38

to tell you the truth am not having problem with my mesmers I like Gwen she's pretty awesome as a hero and you can use them for lots of advantages.

MagmaRed · Sep 23, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Mesmer heroes do amazing things for me. Interrupts, proper hexing, and even fast cast rezing when needing.

The Red Messenger · Sep 23, 2008, 01:52 AM // 01:52

i have gwen all runed out and equipped on all 10 characters...

mesmer hero has not let me down yet...

i run domination with empathy, interrupts, and expel hexes. waste not, want not works nicely for energy management. havent experimented with diversion though. i typically kill the target too fast for diversion to matter

Sep 22, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48	#1
Sniper22 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005	Why does mesmer hero AI suck? Ok who else is having this problem. I can't get mesmers to do anything what I tell them. They never follow up on any target even if you lock on your hero's target. They'll probably wand that guy, but casts all of their hexes on some other random target. I was trying to do vq the ice flow and I brought gwen with a few interrupts, empathy, vor, and diversion for all those mursaat monks who spam orison and aura of faith with infinite energy. Apparently, Gwen has no idea how to use diversion on a monk. I target the monk, click diversion on the skill bar, and she will use it on a completely different target. I eventually dped out with all the mursaat groups because it took too long to take those monks down. Why cant mesmer AI be a bit more... predictable?

Sep 22, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51	#3
Aiden_Madrigal Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2008 Guild: Hey Mallyx [icU]	I've never had this problem with my mesmers, or any other profession with mesmer spells for that matter. Compared to humans, they are much better interrupters when locked, and they do a pretty job casting hexes on a locked target. Perhaps it is an error on your part. I have noticed that if, for example, you lock your Gwen on X, then you yourself switch to Y and command Gwen to cast diversion, she'll cast it on Y (and she will lock on Y). If you want your mesmer heroes to cast a specific hex on a specific target, it isn't just enough to 'lock them'. The only thing locking your heroes will do is make them attack only that target while unsupervised. So yeah, I'm pretty sure it was an error on your part. Last edited by Aiden_Madrigal; Sep 22, 2008 at 09:54 PM // 21:54..

Sep 22, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45	#2
The First Silvari Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Guild: No One Will Have Me Profession: Mo/	have had good experience with them casting hexes but not rupts on targets. Rupts they seem to do well on their own xD.

Sep 22, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06	#4
Skyy High Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2006 Profession: R/	I, as a ranger, hate entrusting interrupts to heros, both mesmers and rangers. The only thing I can be sure a hero will do is use BHA when I tell him to. I see way too many nukes get through when I bring a mes hero on other chars (and I can see that they have a recharged interrupt), which is what I really care about them tagging. Who cares about them catching the 1/2 second cast flare consistently (in HM), when they never go for the 1 second Rodgort's most PUG mesmers could catch?

Sep 23, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06	#5
Grim Aragorn Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: A/	i use my mes hero with interupt build sometimes, Gwen has always done a very good job. Maybee its the build ur trying to use?

Sep 23, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09	#6
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	I'm with the pro-mesmer crowd here, my guildies and I almost always have Gwen with us on anything in HM and she does wonderfully. Maybe once per area we're like "WTF GWEN??!?!?" and tbh, once per area is more than good enough for me. I'd put money on the bad build more than the bad AI.

Sep 23, 2008, 12:38 AM // 00:38	#7
Xeros Rex Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UnderWorld Guild: Absence Of Light [AoL] Profession: Mo/Me	to tell you the truth am not having problem with my mesmers I like Gwen she's pretty awesome as a hero and you can use them for lots of advantages.

Sep 23, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23	#8
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Mesmer heroes do amazing things for me. Interrupts, proper hexing, and even fast cast rezing when needing.

Sep 23, 2008, 01:52 AM // 01:52	#9
The Red Messenger Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: America	i have gwen all runed out and equipped on all 10 characters... mesmer hero has not let me down yet... i run domination with empathy, interrupts, and expel hexes. waste not, want not works nicely for energy management. havent experimented with diversion though. i typically kill the target too fast for diversion to matter